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David MacLeod's avatar

Let us not forget the contributions of Jean Gebser. Kojin Karatani's "modes of exchange" can be correlated with Gebser's "structures of consciousness" (Pure Gift = Archaic, Mode A = Magic, Mode B = Mythical, Mode C = Mental, and Mode D = Integral). And of course Peter Pogany made significant correlations between his projected "Global System 3" with the integral structure of consciousness. Pogany made clear that the transition cannot occur other than that which includes both individual and collective (socioeconomic-cultural) shift in consciousness (which I've started to discuss in my own Substack - https://daviddmacleod.substack.com/p/drifting-toward-a-new-form-of-self

To more fully understand Gebser's contributions to spiritual practice, see The Invisible Origin (1970), and Homologies in Spiritual Attitude (recent translation by Aaron Cheak of a section from Gebser's book Asia Smiles Differently, written in 1968). There is also a YouTube presentation from Cheak, "Oriental Moons, Western Days: Jean Gebser & Asia."

Excerpt:

"We in the west, who have only recently made the leap - about 2500 years ago - from the dream to the waking consciousness, from the irrational to the mental-rational consciousness, must be doubly mindful that the 'great experience' actually manifests itself in an 'illumination' of consciousness. In other words, there should be a new elucidation and intensification of consciousness, which this time does not awaken us from the dream to wakefulness, but raises us out of wakefulness into hyper or supra-wakefulness....one could possibly speak of it as the flashing-forth or sudden shining-through of the whole... with the deepest sense of trust, and with the sacred lucidity of origin's ever-presence pulsating through them..."

https://youtu.be/IFE5az4tL9I?si=O1s9QupNgclb9b5T

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Some comments I wrote up this morning and shared with Michel privately, who gave me the go-ahead to archive them here. Thanks, Michel. As I said I "didn't want to steal your thunder" on your post with what becomes a longer post of mine in response, though you said you wanted it archived, so here it is the first part I already shared. I will finalize my other notes later.

When I quote Michel it is in quotes:

"From Oswald Spengler, we get a streamlined evolutionary account of civilization, which points to the advent of a new religiosity at the end of the life-cycle of civilization."

I have always been skeptical of these two kinds of deductive philosophies of history that are (1) evolutionary/linear/mode after mode, or (2) are functionalist arguments that something 'had to be this way because it served a function.' A lot of this literature in the philosophy of history is really just deductive and Eurocentric/evolutionary, or both, and it is really before the invention of world history proper after World War II (defined as the study of ongoing common diffusions across multiple separate civilizations, and more empirically comparative cases) and most of these people are far earlier than the internet as well which has opened a whole treasure trove of data to more people analyzing these issues. So in writing Ecological Revolution (2009) I was trying to contribute to world history in an internet era where a wealth of more empirical data could be sifted for such analysis instead of starting from deductive first principles, that I think always yield very reductionist results for single variable models or single causal models of history, and thus wrong.

The first statement of Spengler below (numbered as 1) is merely a deduction while the latter (numbered as 2) is merely a tautology, when history is more open ended events that don't have to happen the way they did except for the ongoing choices of actions against other actions. (That is why I spent so much time in Ecological Revolution being more inductive about the dynamics of 'event upon event' dynamics. that are equally about different parties interpreting their other groups they are interacting with. Remember I told you the original draft was around 2,000 pages).

So Spengler (which I have read less than you though), seems only a functionalist argument that brooks no variations: "[1] Civilization starts with the encounter of a conquered and a conquering people, which means [2] tribal custom ceases functioning and a new order must make common life possible. This expresses itself through the emergence of two leading caste groups: the warriors (proceeding from the conquerors) and the spiritual (proceeding from the conquered) caste, which ‘civilizes’ the warriors through a higher ethos of the common good..."

I don't think so. I can think of many counterexamples. Instead of such 'tribal replacement,' many conquests are of groups with writing systems/conquerors over more oral tribal peoples (conquered) in one unit, for thousands of years, in the same 'matrix' of jurisdictional alliances over them in inequitable ways.

Second, in my deep case studies, military groups are hardly only external conquerors though are internally sponsored internecine elite groups fighting each other over the spoils of their materially consolidated wealth and power alliances. Thus, military conquest instead of only external can come from internal groups and the "elite pact breakdown" of different elite groups increasing fighting each other. Each side sponsors more martial followers against each other, until the martial followers instead of clients, start to be powerful enough to have clients of their own jurisdictional alliances, and thus start to have their own independence of action vis-a-vis their original aristocratic or royal sponsors. Thus the internal military starts to selectively follow their leaders' orders when it suits them and thus they equally start to block or deny orders to them, or third, start conducting orders of their own across all military clients in their charge--which are later simply rubberstamped by the original sponsors, afraid of losing the appearance of control of their internal military warriors. (In China's warring states these were called the 'shih'. In Japan this is the origin of the internal warrior caste of the samurai. In Europe, 'feudal' knights are various once-sponsored independent orders under the Pope and other royal houses, yet particularly the more 'international' monastic ones start to have greater control over the popes or some royal lands, with their own foreign policies and seizing land for themselves. Sometimes, these internal martial groups take over the original sponsoring groups by aligning with a regional autonomy movement that they sponsor in their own interest (in Japan this was the long simmering Kenai Independence Movement of the north that the samurai appealed to gain allies against the aristocrats and the royal houses; in Europe, this was the Swiss cantons and the Templars or the Templar or Hospitalier lands in Crete and the Levant, etc.; in China, this was the shin that gained power without any formal legitimacy against the bloodline rules of the elder Zhou world, and so were interested in finding fresh novel philosophies that justified their power that they already gained in fact, though wanted to have some ideology for supporting it; same with the origins of the samurai looking for that kind of religious transcendental legitimacy for themselves and finally sponsoring their version of Zen Buddhism as a warrior religion. However, instead of a functional replacement of power here, original sponsoring aristocrats or royal houses rarely ever accept such a settlement though, and keep trying to upend such a martial-centric jurisdictional alliance that has displaced them as the hegemonic leader. These are the various attempts of the imperial house of Japan to try to unseat various samurai dynasties over the centuries, sometimes only setting up another one they sponsored to oust the previous one (like removing the Kamakura shogunate into the Muromachi shogunate, etc. around 1333, I think.)

... (split into three parts, this is 1 of 3).

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