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Regarding responsibility, and the importance of collective responsibility, I much agree with Desbois. Which leads me to ask - responsibility for what? We might with the Earth Charter's Preamble agree that we should commit to co-responsibility for the security and flourishing of the entire human and non-human community. Now that's a big ask. With a time ration of only 24 hrs/day, where might we begin? How on earth do we, or should we prioritise? Given the myriad of attractions and distractions in the universe, how do we responsibly judge who or what requires our highest priority attention, and who or what to neglect? I recently coined the term 'priosophy' to give name to the wisdom and practice of ethical priority setting - an infant philosophical discipline itself in great need now of priority attention and development. Much to ponder here!

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Hi Terry.

1. I deeply resonate with your emphasis on the progressiveness embedded in our collective development – everything is as it should be, everything is ongoingly constructing itself in connection with all else. Life and experience is participatory. I want to double down on this theme to suggest that we can go further into this progress by acknowledging the continuity between all things – the transcendence and inclusion of our existing behaviors and patterns – and the relativity rather than the binary. I will point out a few places where I am hoping we can lean into this understanding even more, and describe how I might develop your framing. I've quoted some of your essay, and responded in numbered indentations to them.

“Understanding why knowing doesn’t produce transformation—why we can diagnose with perfect accuracy and continue unchanged, why we can see the trap and remain caught in it, why we can name Moloch and keep feeding him.”

2. “Perfect” is always relative (ongoing, progressive), and change is about as fundamental as it gets. I believe this because it’s what I seem to experience most directly. It is as primary as “first principles” go, as far as I can tell. Later on, you hint at the importance of direct experience. Just so, if knowing is being certain, convinced, compelled, then knowing always produces transformation. We can act towards a goal only when we believe in a goal (or when we know something about what we want), and when we believe that our action will get us closer, rather than further. The more we know, the more certain we can be of our action, producing ever more transformation. Perhaps you are referring to a limited ‘intellectual’ knowledge, rather than a knowledge of direct experience. If so, I suggest an update to our concept of knowledge that includes and transcends the distinction between ‘intellect’ and ‘body’, or mind-body dualism.

“The neuroscientist Anil Seth puts it vividly: what we experience as perception is actually the brain’s best guess about what is causing the signals it receives… Our maps become terraforming—cities, roads, mines, dams, industrial agriculture, server farms consuming the energy of small nations. Our representations become social structures—institutions, hierarchies, markets, legal systems, nation-states. We don’t merely think in maps; we reshape the planet and organise our collective lives according to them. The map remakes the territory in its own image.”

3. Anil Seth won the recent Berrgruen Essay competition (Noema Magazine) for arguing that AI cannot be conscious, and that consciousness, and therefore that nature itself, is not computational. I believe this view suffers from entrenched binary metaphysics. The reference to Terraforming reminds me of Ben Bratton, who is also associated with Berggruen, and leads the Antikythera project for Planetary Computation (cybernetics). I agree with Bratton and Aguera y Arcas that intelligence is something like computation – it can be represented by relationships of quantity – and that life can be defined relative to a particularly high degree of intelligence/complex computation. Just as we have always been terraforming, intelligence and computation has always existed. Like consciousness, life force, creative emergence, etc. these can be said to be the fundamental property of nature/existence. I make what I believe to be a rigorous argument for this from the standpoint of direct experience (phenomenology), which is THE first principle. The most coherent derivation of a systemic metaphysics I know of.

“The maps can substitute for the territory. The representations can replace the reality they were meant to serve. The symbolic intelligence can operate as though the regulatory feedback that constrains other forms of intelligence no longer applies to it.”

4. Similarly to the continuity/relationality/relativity of intelligence, complexity, and computation, I emphasize the ubiquity of representation. All understanding is relational, and relative – it involves distance, flow, movement. It is not ever fully direct, final, full, complete. It’s “maps all the way down”. Bratton uses a similar metaphor in application to social organization – there is no single determining factor as per “historical materialism” where the ‘economic base’ is the ‘final determinant’ – all factors are mutually determining and reciprocal. Transcending the base-superstructure division, Bratton likes to say, “It’s base all the way down”. The omnidirectional regulatory feedback always applies to everything. There IS ONLY EVER regulatory feedback. We seek to expand our understanding of the complexity of this feedback so we can navigate with more forethought and sustainability/regenerativity.

“And each action generates more symbolic content—analysis of what went wrong, new frameworks to prevent recurrence, improved models—which further distances us from direct engagement with what is actually happening… Notice: naming this pattern is itself map-making. The ‘consciousness trap’ is a representation, not the territory it points toward. Even this essay participates in what it describes. There is no position outside the flux from which to diagnose it cleanly.”

5. All relating is relatively direct, and all “actual” happening is interpretation. Reality is representation all the way down.

“Life is regulatory intelligence made visible. A single cell coordinates thousands of chemical reactions per second, maintaining its integrity against dissolution, responding to signals, making decisions about when to divide and when to die. No consciousness directs this. No symbolic representation mediates it. The intelligence is embedded in the process itself.”

6. I would still like to maintain that this is a conscious process. The subconscious is not UNconscious – it is perhaps less conscious, but it also may be ever more conscious because it has a high degree of certainty of itself – these processes are very zen, so to speak. Perhaps even more conscious of the subtle layers of variability within the seeming sameness. It’s symbolism and intelligence all the way down.

“Predator-prey relationships, nutrient cycles, population dynamics—all self-regulating, all responsive, all displaying the hallmarks of intelligence: learning, adaptation, coordination, resilience… This is the intelligence we participate in—and, too often, override.”

7. All is intelligence – there is no overriding it, just riding with it.

“Today, for the first time, we have built a single global system. The situation has no outside. This is not a problem to be solved by cleverer saviours. It is a developmental threshold.”

8. There has always been a single global system, just less formed, less expansive, less complex, both less distributed and less coordinated/centralized, and less human before now.

“Their maps, however sophisticated, could not capture what his formation had enabled: appropriate participation in a situation that allowed no time for mapping.”

9. Their maps were also formed - their actions, their experience, their perception, all came together to try to anticipate the likely outcomes and the corresponding best action. And Sully was operating with different forms of map: eyes seeing through the windows, mapping the light, mapping the space, many layers of thoughts about what migh tbe likely and best, and emotions, chemical signals, intuitions, faint memories, all conjoining their frameworks into the unified understanding of the situation.

“Extractive engagement treats commons as assets for individual benefit. The shared resource becomes raw material for private accumulation. Each actor optimises locally while the commons degrades globally. This is Moloch: rational self-interest producing collective suicide. It is the separate self writ large—each node acting as though independent of the whole.”

10. Individual benefit is not mutually exclusive with collective benefit. All we can do is optimize locally, while everyone else optimizes in their local, all of them converging on a collective optimization given the models that prevail. We all ALWAYS act in relationship with the whole. We all rely on our social context, social norms, and economic flows. And we all know this, to varying degrees. I believe the most progress can be made by expanding this sense of dependence, thereby expanding the sense of self, rather than through attempts to eliminate the separate self. Evolution can be seen not as lessening individual optimization but its enhancement – the development of better local optimization for as many as possible, thereby supporting more collective optimizations. Recognizing our interconnectedness more is an essential part. And so, too, is recognizing our differences and uniqueness more.

“We can see the largest scales and the smallest.”

11. Our scales are ever expanding – we always had a relatively smallest and largest scale. Now, they are larger and smaller than they were, and will continue to expand, just as we will continue to develop our understanding of ourselves, our individuality, and our interconnectedness with all else.

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12. Thanks for engaging with these themes. I find the questions they prompt to be vital for growth and insight into the deepest and most important opportunities for transformation. If you’d like to take a peek at my essay where I make the case for this evolution from first principles, check out the paper linked in the “Positive Realizations via POSITS” whitepaper link on my bio.site/fazepoint

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